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THE JOHN POPE MYSTERY
My quest to link all the Pope families in
Caithness
and Sutherland and to link those families to the Popes of Easter Ross and with
a common ancestry have been more successful than I could ever imagine.
Now the search is on to see if and where the last two or three Popes in
the area connect into the large and, now worldwide, family of Popes. The mystery
of one individual, John Pope, started in Sutherland but moved into Caithness and
then to
Edinburgh
and
Liverpool
.
In September 1858 John Pope aged
29 years, from Durness, Sutherland in
Scotland
, an Agricultural Labourer arrived in
Australia
on the ‘David McIvor’ from
Liverpool
having paid £1 for his fare. He
indicated that his parents were John and Jessie (Pope not stated but the surname
of other parents was also omitted from the records so omission may not be
significant), he could read and write, he was in good health, a Presbyterian and
that his relative in the Colony was his cousin Hector Melville[1].
This Hector and his family in
Scotland
were already well documented and clearly the Pope connection would appear to be
the source of the relationship. However,
initially extensive searching did not find this John Pope in
Australia
nor a suitable emigrant from Sutherland. Despite
this the Sutherland connection seemed clear and also on board the ‘David
McIvor’ were two other Sutherland immigrant, a George Sutherland[2]
also from Durness and John Morrison[3],
son of Robert and Ann Morrison, from Eddrachillis.
George married, had a family and died in
New South Wales
. Attempts to link him to John Pope
back in
Scotland
have failed and indeed there may be no link and just a coincidental journey on
the same ship though that seems a little too much to accept.
As for John Morrison, no search in
Australia
has been carried out but maybe a future examination of his activities might be
useful.
Looking though the Sutherland
records proved fruitless but a John Pope in Wick seemed worth following.
This John along with his wife, Ann Sutherland, had a child, Janet, in
Wick on 31 March 1856. Searches for
their marriage eventually identified their marriage in
Edinburgh
on 8 April 1853 and John was given as a Blacksmith from
Liverpool
and Ann as the daughter of a School Teacher in Wick, Robert Sutherland[4].
Both John and Ann were living at
the same address in
Leith
at the time of their marriage,
14 Citadel Street
. A marriage witness was also at
this address, Scott Smith a Blacksmith subsequently found to be from Wick.
Clearly a boarding house and known to
Caithness
folk as there was at least one other Caithnessian there amongst many residents
in the 1851 census. Did John Pope
join Scott Smith there from Wick or
Liverpool
or did John take Scott Smith there from Wick?
Who knows and maybe it does not matter.
Further checking of the
Caithness
records brought the sad news that Ann Pope (ms Sutherland) had died in Thurso
on 13 February 1857. Her death being
reported by her husband, John. There
was no indication of where John went after that and no sign of the young Janet.
It appeared the search for John had come to an end.
But as often happens in Genealogy, the chance find of the birth of an
earlier child, Robert Pope, recorded in the Wick OPR to John and Ann and the
discovery of a Jess Pope, a female child of 4 years, living with a McKay[5]
family in Durness awakened interest. Strangely
this child was described as a ‘Boarder’ despite her young age but
additionally the lady of the house was not only a Janet McKay[6]
but she had the maiden name Pope!
Examination of the OPR entry for
Wick revealed a quite ambiguous situation. It
is as follows:
The ambiguous OPR entry, shown
above, added confusion to the disentangling of this mystery. Was this Robert
born in Wick or
Liverpool
? Was the entry placed by Ann’s
parents? Who is the ‘F. Church
Minister’ mentioned and was he in Wick or in
Liverpool
? What it did do was to begin to tie
together the story of a John Pope to Wick, Thurso,
Edinburgh
and
Liverpool
.
However, one of those questions
was answered by an announcement in the marriage column in the John O’ Groat
Journal:
John O' Groat Journal 20 Jan
1854
At
Liverpool
, on the 6th, the wife of Mr John Pope, Blacksmith, a son.
A letter to the Liverpool Family
History Society enquiring about the Rev Whyte brought an encouraging response.
It appears that in the 1853 Gores directory there is no listing under
Whyte but a Rev Verner Moor White
minister of the Scotch Church 1 Salisbury Street,
Liverpool
appears. This at first suggested
that this could have been the gentlemen concerned and if so the family in Wick
would not have been sure of the spelling and would also have been unaware of the
forename. However, this
individual’s place in the story receded slightly when it was found that there
was a minister in Canisbay,
Caithness
from 1845 to 1866 called Alexander Whyte. He
was actually an established church minister and not Free Church, if that is what
the F. Church in the entry referred to. Despite
this difference it appeared possible that he was the minister referred to in the
baptismal record though it was still puzzling why the name
Liverpool
follows the minister’s name as well as indicating John Pope’s place of
residence.
The question of which minister
was the one named on the Wick OPR entry remains but the fact that Robert was
given in the newspaper announcement as being born in Liverpool made the
probability of a Liverpool baptism more likely.
The entry might have been precipitated by information given to the Clerk
of the
Wick
Church
by the proud grand-parents or by the parents on a swift return to Ann’s home
town. The latter not being an
unlikely and accounting for the no statutory recording of the birth in
England
.
The baptism record in Wick was
not confirmed by an equivalent record of any kind in
Liverpool
. There was no birth recorded in
Liverpool for Robert, or indeed anywhere else in
England
, there was no death in Liverpool or elsewhere,
Scotland
or
England
, for a suitable Robert and the church records for the
Liverpool
Scotch
Church
were said to no longer exist. One
had then to assume, now known to be wrong, that Robert died in
Scotland
at a very young age and prior to statutory registration in 1855.
This still left the question of where events took place.
Was John Pope in Wick or
Liverpool
when his son Robert was born, baptised and possibly died?
The trail had gone cold but
continued searching for Robert, even though thought to be dead, revealed a
Robert Pope aged 8 years in the 1861 census with Robert and Lillias Sutherland
his grandparents and, of course, the parents of Ann Sutherland and wife of John
Pope. Suddenly it became clear that
John Pope had almost certainly placed a child with each side of the family.
One with Ann’s parents and one with what appeared to be a Pope relative
in Durness. Could the latter also be
grandparents or some other close family connection?
After all Janet McKay, ms Pope, did have a son John around the time of
her marriage to George McKay. Maybe
this John was actually illegitimate and known as John Pope in everything except
the official records where he had been given George McKay’s name.
It might even have been George’s child but born or conceived at any
rate before the marriage to Janet Pope.
However, a further possibility
came to the fore with the finding of Peter McLean[7]
and Catherine Pope living in
Liverpool
and having a family there. This
Catherine was the sister of the Janet Pope in Durness married to George McKay.
Not only does this family further add to the Liverpool connection but one of
their children was Andrew McLean a Ships’ Carpenter and working on the ship
‘Star of the South’ in Liverpool in 1859 who in that year married and also
went to Australia. Clearly if John
Pope was in
Liverpool
in the 1850s and Andrew there at the same time they probably knew one another
being almost certainly from the same family. It would seem logical to at least
speculate that John Pope was the nephew of Catherine McLean (MS Pope).
Did he place his daughter Janet (Jess) with her grandparents or was she
actually placed with her aunt in Durness? Could
John Pope be the son of one of the siblings of Catherine and Janet or even the
illegitimate son of one of those two sisters?
But what of young Jess Pope?
Further searches of later census returns, marriages and deaths at first
did not find her. She had
disappeared from
Scotland
, was not found in
Australia
and initially did not appeared elsewhere in
Britain
. In 1871 she would still have been
only 14 years and yet she did not seem to be with the McKay family she was with
in 1861 nor with any other family connected to those McKays.
Alternative forenames and surnames and various combinations were checked
through the records in the hope that she simply changed her name and that is
simply what happened. While checking the Sutherland family Sam Higgins noted an
extra youngster in the Sutherland home in Wick in 1871 but under the name of
Sutherland. Jess or Janet Pope was
here with her Wick grandparents. It
seemed very likely that after the death of Ann Pope her daughter to John Pope
was placed by him with a relative in Durness for safe-keeping as a ‘Boarder’
while he earned a living and at some time between 1861 and 1871 she moved from
Durness to her Wick grandparents. Janet’s brother Robert was no longer in the
Wick household so this left one with the obvious next searches
– those for John Pope and his son Robert. The
initial searches in later census returns showed them to be absent from all
records checked in
Britain
.
The question that arose was
‘Did John Pope travel to
Australia
and was he the John Pope who arrived in September 1858 from Durness, Sutherland
and cousin to Hector Melville? It
would account for his disappearance and the young Jess left in Durness.
The Durness, Sutherland connection became quite clear with the apparent
finding of a ‘second’ John Pope in
Australia
.
There seemed no resolving this
question until the discovery on the internet of a website with information on
this ‘second’ John Pope who married in Queensland in September 1862 and died
in a remote part of Queensland in 1863 leaving a widow, a son John and a large
number of Australian descendants. John
Pope gave his occupation as Blacksmith at his marriage to Dorothea Gruber[8].
He said he was a bachelor. This would not be a surprising claim if he
was, in fact, a widower from the other side of the world with hardly much
likelihood of his new wife finding out his true status if indeed she did not
know of the previous marriage.
John’s untimely death in
December 1863 of consumption was reported by his widow, Dorothea Pope (ms
Gruber) who indicated that he was a Blacksmith and from
Sutherlandshire
,
Scotland
. It seems most likely that this
John was the one from Wick, Thurso, Durness,
Edinburgh
and
Liverpool
but it does not answer a number of questions and principally what happened to
young Jess Pope and was this John Pope the same one who arrived in 1858.
The age and other details are correct and though the time given in
Australia
at his death, by the widow, was given as eight years rather than in his sixth
year there and the occupation given in 1858 was Agricultural Labourer rather
than Blacksmith the balance of probability must that those Johns were one and
the same person. Regarding the
discrepancy in years in the Colony this seems a reasonable error or maybe
unknown fact on the part of the widow and the occupational difference has been
explained to me as due to the cost of travel to
Australia
. I am told that the cost of travel
for a Blacksmith, being a tradesman, would be £5 more than for an Agricultural
Worker and, of course apart from going for the cheaper option John Pope might
well have been working on the land in Scotland when he decided to try his luck
in the antipodes. It was common in
Caithness
and Sutherland for a rural blacksmith to also be a farmer or farm worker.
Therefore he had the option of describing himself either way, and would choose
the cheaper option, provided it would not affect his employment opportunity in
Australia
.

The advertisement for John Pope’s Blacksmith Business in
the Gayndah and Central Queensland Advertiser.
The search in
Scotland
for John Pope goes on. At least one
existed, claimed to be from Sutherland and was there for a traceable part of his
life. Why there is no record of a
birth, why there is no record of the parents stated in 1858 on entry to
Australia
and why there is no other statutory record or census record remains a mystery.
Regarding the parents on the entry to
Australia record, it is worth speculating that the Jessie referred to was
actually Janet Pope since the names Jessie and Janet were interchangeable in
Scotland at the time. The father given as John might be accurate being the
father of the illegitimate John junior, a mistake in entry with John being
entered in both places or an attempt by John Pope to hide his possible
illegitimacy.
Equally baffling, as we have
seen, had been the disappearance of Jess (Janet) Pope after 1861 and what
relationship she had to Janet McKay (Pope) as surely there must have been quite
a close family connection. The trail
after 1871 and her discovery in that year once again went cold until the finding
of a marriage record in
Newcastle
for a Jessie Pope revived interest. The
certificate was ordered and here she was, the missing Jess Pope, Boarder from
Durness and daughter of John Pope, Blacksmith.
She married George Arthur Perry, an accountant in
Newcastle
on 3 January 1881. George was given
as a widower with his address as Westmoreland Terrace,
Newcastle
and occupation noted as Accountant. His father, also George, was given as a
Surgeon, deceased. Surprisingly Jessie’s address is given as Montpellier
Terrace,
Sunderland
. Mis-spelt on the certificate as
Maltpelier but identified by family history contact Robert Morrison as this
rather prosperous area of
Sunderland
. There is also on the certificate an interesting witness by the name of Robert
Pope. Most likely the missing
brother of Jessie and son of John Pope and Ann Sutherland.
This puzzling and confused family add further to the inconsistent
recording of their backgrounds by indicating Jessie to still be single in the
1881 census and in service as a Domestic servant in the home of John Maugham,
Vicar of Mickley, at Mickley Vicarage but having an address in
Sunderland
in January 1881. The census entry
could be an error or possibly this couple, whose family connections seem to have
become more dysfunctional as time went on, actually married without the
knowledge of the Vicar with the couple living apart for a time.

Above the 1881 census showing
Jessie Pope as single and living at Mickley Vicarage.
Jessie Pope’s marriage
certificate showing she married some months before the above census.

With the finding of Robert on
the marriage certificate the hunt of him before and after 1881 once again became
a priority. The 1871 census search
being unsuccessful in the
United Kingdom
records the search moved abroad. A
Robert Pope of the correct age was identified in the
United States of America
, in
Chicago
, living with his Scottish uncle and aunt. The uncle’s name being Alexander
Sutherland, which coincidentally was the name of Ann Sutherland‘s brother.
This is then surely must be the missing Robert who presumably returned to
Scotland
prompted to do so by bereavements. Robert
and Lilias Sutherland, his grandparents, passed away but possibly even more
importantly his uncle Alexander in the
US
died and Robert’s aunt remarried.
The finding of Jess/Jessie Pope
and Robert was not the only interesting development in the north of
England
. In
Durham
a McKie Pope, born in
Scotland
, appeared in the 1871 census with his wife Jane[9]
and two daughters and the death of a McKay Pope, in
South Shields
, was recorded for 1871. There was a
McKay Pope born to Hugh and Johanna Pope in Durness and of the correct age to be
this McKie/McKay. Having obtained
the marriage and death certificates for McKay Pope he proved to be the son of
the aforementioned Hugh and Johanna. He
was recorded as Master Mariner but unfortunately the sea took the life of this
mariner as he was drowned in a boat capsize while salmon fishing on 1st May
1864. This tragedy was not the only
one to befall the family with the death, at a young age, of their two daughters.
Further information of possible
significance quickly appeared after the finding of Jessie Pope in
Newcastle
. After much searching and then the
invaluable assistance of Robert Morrison in the
Newcastle
area it transpired that a George Arthur Perry and a Jessie Perry, with ages
consistent with the individuals being sought, were located in the
London
area. This Jessie, aged 34 years,
died on 12th March 1891 in Marylebone,
London
and George passed away in 1934. A
George also appeared in the 1891 census as a 39 year old widower and working as
a Pawnbrokers Assistant in Deptford,
London
. This latter date is at variance
with the death age in 1901 but it was felt possible that they were one and the
same person. Unfortunately, the
death certificates, as is typical or English recording, was inconclusive with
regard to both individuals and so further research in both the North of England
and London became necessary to solve this part of the puzzle.
However, later information did indeed confirm this death information to
be accurate and for the George Arthur Perry sought in connection with the Pope
family mystery.

As often happens in family
research a trail goes cold for a time and then an unexpected breakthrough
occurs. In the case of the Perry
connection this breakthrough came by way of my family website and the spotting
of the ‘John Pope Mystery Page’ by a Perry family member Mandy Perry
(married name Mandy Elhashash). Mandy’s
work on her Perry ancestors, whose lifestyle seems to have been as irregular as
the Popes, added much new and interesting, indeed intriguing, information to
this already complicated story.
Mandy confirmed that George
Arthur, or Arthur as he sometimes preferred to be called, was living in
Marylebone in 1891[10]
with his son John Arthur Perry and various domestic staff and a sick nurse
called Edith Youell. The entry gives
a birth date of about 1853/54 while indicating the place of birth to be
South America
and this place of birth being the reason why a previous search for the earlier
Perry’s proved fruitless. Three
other interesting points are raised by the census entry.
One being the claim that (George) Arthur was married when he was actually
a widower, another the appearance of a son, John A.
Research revealed that this was the son of George Arthur and Jessie Pope
providing a further generation for this Pope line and finally the Youell entry
was in error giving the nurse as female but the name as Ernest.
Later research indicates that the name should have read Edith Youell and
that Edith had a brother Edward but not a brother Ernest.
This Edith was after the death of Jessie to George Arthur Perry and this
marriage and the resulting family brought even more connections in
Britain
and
Australia
in the story. Principally from the
point of view of this research the contact made with John Perry in
Australia
, direct ancestor of the George Arthur Perry and Edith Youdell marriage.
Strange to think that there are now large numbers of descendants of John
Pope and his daughter Jessie in
Australia
and only now getting to realise the other’s existence.
The birth information for John A
tracked down by Mandy Perry was as follows:
John Arthur
Perry, born 20 November 1882
Place; Lambeth,
Surrey, sub-district or
Norwood
.
Father; George
Arthur Perry, Auctioneer and Estate Agent
Mother; Jessie
Perry formally Pope
The address;
Oak House, Carson House,
West Dulwich
.
Registration
signed by Jessie Perry on 29 December 1882
The marriage information for
Arthur George (or George Arthur) Perry’s second or more likely third marriage
was as follows:
Place; The Wesleyan Chapel,
Clacton
on Sea
District; Tendring, Essex
Date; 14 September 1891
Marriage
State
; Widower (inaccurate)
Occupation;
Sanitary Inspector
Father; George
Perry, Surgeon
Residing;
Clacton,
Essex
Wife; Edith
Youell, Spinster
Father; Edward
Youell
Residing;
Clacton,
Essex
Witnesses;
George and Elizabeth Manning
Mandy Perry’s direct interest
in this puzzle becomes clear when she states that Edith Youell, whom George
Arthur married in Clacton registration district of Tendring on 14 September
1891, is most likely her great, grandmother through her grandfather Maurice
Perry, the third son of George Arthur from his second marriage or his third
marriage if he was indeed a widower when he married Jessie Pope.
The family was residing in the 1901 census[11]
in Fingringhoe, Essex but John Arthur, the son to Jessie Pope, was still
residing at the Marylebone address with an the occupation of Sanitary
Inspector’s Assistant/Apprentice thus giving the impression he is probably
working with his father.
The final official reference to
John Arthur Perry in
England
appears to have been his marriage to Florence Stewart Andews in Willesden
Green, Hendon Middlesex in December 1903. The lack of further reference in
England
was mostly likely due to his emigration to
Australia
. Mandy Perry’s mother indicated to her that John Arthur probably emigrated to
Australia
and a relative of one of George Arthur Perry’s sons by his second, or
possibly third, marriage confirmed this and that he had emigrated about 1911.
This was later confirmed in official documents by the finding of
reference to John Arthur Perry in an Australian Imperial Forces document in 1915
relating to the members of the forces enlisted for service abroad in WW1. This
document gave his place of birth as Dulwich West,
London
,
England
and his address in
Australia
as
Clayton Road
,
Clayton
,
Victoria
. His next of kin was given as his
wife
Florence
and it would appear that John Arthur had served in the army in
Britain
for two months before buying himself out for £1 from the 7th
Battalion King’s Royal Regiment. It
is not clear how long John Arthur remained in the forces and whether he indeed
did go abroad for combat. The word
‘Discharged’ is written across the top of the document and across it in red
ink the word ‘cancelled’ appears. Those
may be references to an early exit from the Australian Imperial Force or simply
added at a later date after service was completed.
Further research is needed to clarify this.
Mandy Perry gives some further
background on her complicated ancestors in her description, in the footnotes, of
her great grandfather’s background and that of her grandfather[12].
Some of this information has been omitted from this report due to the
newness of the detail but anyone with a right and good reason to know may
contact myself or Mandy regarding this.
As has tended to be the pattern with
this research the trail went cold for some month until, out of the blue, I was
contacted by a John Perry from Warrnambool, Victoria, Australia, a direct
descendant of John and Florence Perry who went to Australia early in the 20th
century. John sent me much
information regarding his Perry family in
Australia
on his family CD and the pictures printed below.
Only information relevant to this research and that of a non-sensitive
nature is recorded here.
Who would have thought at the start
of this research into the identity of ‘little Jesse Pope in Durness’ that
pictures her and her husband and her son would appear.

Left picture: George Arthur Perry and son John Perry
Centre picture: John Perry, Jessie/Janet Perry (Pope) and
George Arthur Perry
Right picture: Jessie/Janet
Perry (Pope)
Throughout this report of the
John Pope Mystery many questions have been posed and answered and others have
appeared but without resolution at this time.
There were many questions associated with the Perrys both connected to
the Pope marriage era and in later times. Those
unresolved questions relating to the first and third marriages of George Arthur
Perry were of indirect interest and taxed my enquiring mind but of greatest
interest was the background to the marriage to Jessie Pope and later movements
of their son, John Arthur Perry. The
following questions in particular were of some importance and slowly answers
appeared for some of those questions.
Who exactly
were the Perry family and what is their history before George Arthur Perry?
They were in
South America
and elsewhere around the World but what were they doing there and exactly where
were other family members born? Where was George Arthur Perry’s father
throughout the time of the marriage of George Arthur and Jessie Pope?
How and why did
Jessie Pope turn up in the North of England working in a Vicarage?
Was it a
complete coincidence that Jessie Pope, for sometime in Durness, married in
Newcastle
, Northumberland and at the same time McKay Pope from Durness was residing in
nearby
South Shields
?
What happened
to Robert Pope after 1871 and did he return to the
USA
. Or was he simply ‘lost’ elsewhere in the World at census times being a
sailor?
This is one of
the puzzles in the story that is at least partly resolved.
Information from Perry descendant John Perry, mentioned above, indicates
that Robert was reported by John Arthur Perry, the son of Janet Pope and George
Arthur Perry, to have become a seaman though at what rank unknown.
This would account for Robert’s not appearing in the British census and
his ability to turn up at his sister Janet’s marriage and disappear just as
quickly.
And most
importantly, was John Pope, as suspected, the illegitimate son of Janet Pope,
the wife of George Mackay of Durness?
This story has still more time
to run!
I have search long and hard for
answers and been more than ably assisted in the task by Sam Higgins from
Glasgow, a young and enthusiastic family history researcher and member of the
Pope family. Without her assistance,
that of Richard Snedden, a member of the Pope Melville families in Australia,
Caithness Family History Society member Robert Morrison in the North East of
England and Mandy Perry and John Perry, the direct descendants of George Arthur
Perry we would have not progressed this far in the search for John, Robert and
Jess Pope and their fascinating connected families.
[1]
Hector Melville (1833 – 1900) was
the son of John Melville and Roberta Pope.
(Roberta’s parents were Hector Melville and Isabella Matheson).
Hector born 1833 went to
Sydney
,
Australia
- travelled on the '
St Helena
' and arrived on 10th Dec. 1854. Interred
Rookwood
Cemetery
,
Sydney
. Sands Directory - 1883, 1891/92/93/95 and 1890 - profession listed as
coachbuilder and wheelwright with address in all issues as
Bedford Street
,
Newtown
. Given as Overseer on marriage
certificate. Ship details (1854) - Age 24, Farm Labourer, native of Clyne,
Sutherlandshire, Paid £1, could read and write, no relatives in Colony.
[2]
George Sutherland, son of Roderick and Mary Sutherland, sometimes
given the middle name of McKay, married Emma Want in Grafton New South
Wales
in 1869. They had at least nine
children – Angus, Hannah Maria, Mary, George Roderick, Roderick, Julia
Margaret,
Georgina
, Kenneth, Emma and Alexandrina
I. George arrived on the David
McIver in
Australia
in September 1858 having paid a fare of £1.
George’s father, Roderick, was given as a Farmer on the David
McIver shipping list.
[3]
John Morrison, born 18 September 1832, was the son of Robert and Ann
Morrison and was from Eddrachillis, Sutherland.
According on information on arrival in
Australia
he was 26 years of age, a Farm Labourer, able to read and write but had no
relatives in the colony.
[4]
Robert Sutherland, born c1801, was a school teacher in Wick.
His wife was Lillias Malcolm, born c1803, and they were married 20
October 1820. Indications are
that they had at least five children – Jean, David, Robert, Ann and
Alexander.
[5]
George McKay and his wife Janet McKay ms Pope and their family had
along with them Jess Pope, a 4 year old boarder in 1861 census.
[6]
Janet McKay (ms Pope) details according to census:
1841 census Age
30 Estimated Birth Year
1813
Place of Birth: Sutherland
1851 census Age
43 Estimated Birth Year
1808
Place of Birth: Durness,
Sutherland
1861 census Age
48 Estimated Birth Year
1813
Place of Birth: Brora,
Sutherland
At Marriage Age
From
: Loth, Sutherland
At Death
Age 58
Estimated Birth Year 1810
Parents: Hector Pope and Isabella MacPherson
Those details are at variance and cause
considerable problem not least because no Hector apart from the one married
to Isabella Matheson can be found. Since
the MacPherson surname is given on a death certificate it could well be
wrong. All other Pope evidence
suggests that this is Janet born to Hector Pope and Isabella Matheson in
1805 In Doll of Brora, Clyne.
[7]
The George S Taylor Manuscript on the Pope families prepared in
early1830 by the Golspie Writer/Solicitor notes Peter and Catherine McLean
in
Liverpool
and with four children (There may have been another two children). Andrew
McLean was one of those children. Andrew
married Elizabeth Ross in Golspie in 1859 and then went to
Ashby
,
Victoria
,
Australia
and had at least 6 children there.
Elizabeth
’s sister, Helen, was already in Ashby and married to David Webster.
[8]
Mary
(Maria) Dorothea (Bertha) Gruber b: 5 JUN 1846 in Niederaroff,
Nassau
,
Germany
daughter of Johann
Philip Gruber and Luise
Katharina Margarethe Bode. Son John to John Pope born 27 SEP 1863 in Gayndah,
Queensland, Australia and died 18 NOV 1937 in Brisbane, Queensland,
Australia. John Pope junior
married Agnes
Emily O'Connell
and they had at least 8 Children. Dorothea
Gruber may have been married before marriage to John Pope and was married
later to George Louis Walker and they had 9 children. (information on
Rootsweb).
[9]
Jane Scott, born 4th March 1847 and married 16 March 1864,
had two children to McKay Pope – Sarah born c1867, died 1882 and Hannah
born c1869, died 1874. Mother
and children born in
County
Durham
.
[10]
1891 Census; Arthur Perry, 45
Townsend Road, St John’s Wood, Marylebone, married, head aged 37 years,
Sanitary Inspector born St Tago. Also
at address; John A Perry, son aged 6 years, born West Dulwich, Kent and
Ernest Youell (name error), unmarried Servant aged 25 years, Sick Nurse,
born Camberwell. Beatrice
Golding, Servant residing there also. (Is St Tiago actually Santiago as 1901
census gives birthplace as South America or is it St Tiago one of the Cape
Verde Islands of the African Coast?).
[11]
1901 Census; Arthur Perry, 49 Laurel House, Fingrinhoe, Essex, married, head
of household aged 47 years, Sanitary Inspector, born South America, British
Subject. Others in household:
Edith Perry, wife, 35 years, born London; Dorothy Perry, Unmarried daughter
aged 9 years born Ipswich, Suffolk; Edward Perry unmarried son aged 7 years
born London; Percival Perry unmarried son aged 4 years born London; Alice
Youell unmarried sister of wife Edith aged 29 years.
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